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Zeppelin · May 24, 2005, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx42

where do you get this information? I've heard people claim to know with 100% certainty that each of the following is true:

1) the rune covers your whole body and stacks with knights, for which each piece only covers the one location

2) runes AND knight armor each cover the one location (lik armor rating) AND stack

3) runes and armor each cover one location and do NOT stack

4) the claims made here (both rune and 1 piece of knights covers whole body and they do not stack)

I'd REALLY like to have a definitive answer to this. Can someone please tell me the source of this information?

As an aside, it sucks that there is no way to see your actual effective AR and mods in-game.

It's number 4. Ensign tested it and posted the results, being that when he put on additional pieces of damage reduction armor/dr runes it was still the same as having just one piece of damage reduction armor on. There is still a thread about it here if you'd like to search for it. But, everyone is saying it's number 4 because...... it's number 4.

kelthorn · May 24, 2005, 10:28 AM // 10:28

hmmm maybe if you take a few minutes to search in this nice website!

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ide-id1156.php

or

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php

When you are hit by an attack, the attack is located in either body,head,leg,hand,feets... the damage is lowered by the corresponding piece of armor (the AL) then reduced by the "reduced damage" if any (-2 damage on knight armor) AND(or? checking it again -_-) by your rune if any
(-1 for minor, -2 major, -3 superior)

example:
* you are hit by 20 point of physical damage attack

If you have have knight armor(80AL+10physical) & superior rune of damage absorption
*according to the chart with 90 AL you take 59.5% of the attack
*you have -2 from knight armor and -3 from major rune
*so that's (20*59.5%)-2-3=6.9 (i think it's rounded up this will be 7damage)

as facts: runes does not stack with other runes of same type and the biggest one apply, and the effect is on YOU just look at sword headgear + sword rune, this work, while minor sword rune+major sword rune only give +2sword.(absorption rune rumored to be exception, checking it).

edit: i let the working part ^^

jinx42 · May 24, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53

Kelthorn: I have searched this site and others many times, and continue to get inconsistent answers to this question. If you had actually read my post, you would have realized this. Furthermore, neither of the articles you posted has anything to do with the question at hand whatsoever, and you give no support for your "100% sure" claims, which other messages on this thread flatly contradict. Please check yourself before adopting a condescending tone in the future.

Zeppelin: The testing you mentioned gives me much more confidence in your answer. Thanks. Could you link me to the thread you mentioned, which discusses the test results, please? I've search and searched but can't find it. (I'm sure you know the search feature on this site leaves much to be desired.)

kelthorn · May 24, 2005, 01:20 PM // 13:20

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2390

need to check his test and redo mine, the gargoyle is nice idea(since spell do a fixed amouth of damage), altough he forgot spell hit the chest unless it's projectile damage, need to check the spell , my test showed an overall -4 dmg, lost my major rune while swapping armor ^^ expert tool not always work /cry going to buy another not in the mood to farm hours.

edit:
* yes the devs are idiots (imho)
* tested out on spell which are same damage everynukes, naked, with only either pant, gloves, etc and combinaison of each
total naked: 12 damage
with 1 or 2 piece of knight/ascalon armor : 10 damage

12-10= 2 DR

you only need to wear one piece of ascalon/knight to have the Reduce damage from attacks effect. if you doubt just go naked with only one piece or ascalon (avoid body -_-) right outside ascalon city to find

getting a rune of absorption on forum, to check if both stack, seems sometimes maths and averages for 200+ records just sux ^^

*i don't know if it is broken or intended... i just hope they will had some exotic part or armor in updates

jinx42 · May 26, 2005, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Ok, more corroboration, which is good informationally, but also disappointing because, as others have stated, this is an incredibly lame system.

Lasty: Does the same apply to situational damage reduction from shields? Has anyone tested this out? Should I not bother with this any longer? (except with my mo/wa of course)

May 24, 2005, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#22
kelthorn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	hmmm maybe if you take a few minutes to search in this nice website! http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ide-id1156.php or http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php When you are hit by an attack, the attack is located in either body,head,leg,hand,feets... the damage is lowered by the corresponding piece of armor (the AL) then reduced by the "reduced damage" if any (-2 damage on knight armor) AND(or? checking it again -_-) by your rune if any (-1 for minor, -2 major, -3 superior) example: * you are hit by 20 point of physical damage attack If you have have knight armor(80AL+10physical) & superior rune of damage absorption according to the chart with 90 AL you take 59.5% of the attack you have -2 from knight armor and -3 from major rune so that's (2059.5%)-2-3=6.9 (i think it's rounded up this will be 7damage) as facts: runes does not stack with other runes of same type and the biggest one apply, and the effect is on YOU just look at sword headgear + sword rune, this work, while minor sword rune+major sword rune only give +2sword.(absorption rune rumored to be exception, checking it). edit: i let the working part ^^ Last edited by kelthorn; May 24, 2005 at 05:30 PM // 17:30..

May 24, 2005, 01:20 PM // 13:20	#24
kelthorn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2390 need to check his test and redo mine, the gargoyle is nice idea(since spell do a fixed amouth of damage), altough he forgot spell hit the chest unless it's projectile damage, need to check the spell , my test showed an overall -4 dmg, lost my major rune while swapping armor ^^ expert tool not always work /cry going to buy another not in the mood to farm hours. edit: * yes the devs are idiots (imho) * tested out on spell which are same damage everynukes, naked, with only either pant, gloves, etc and combinaison of each total naked: 12 damage with 1 or 2 piece of knight/ascalon armor : 10 damage 12-10= 2 DR you only need to wear one piece of ascalon/knight to have the Reduce damage from attacks effect. if you doubt just go naked with only one piece or ascalon (avoid body -_-) right outside ascalon city to find getting a rune of absorption on forum, to check if both stack, seems sometimes maths and averages for 200+ records just sux ^^ i don't know if it is broken or intended... i just hope they will had some exotic part or armor in updates Last edited by kelthorn; May 24, 2005 at 05:27 PM // 17:27..*

May 24, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53	#23
jinx42 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	Kelthorn: I have searched this site and others many times, and continue to get inconsistent answers to this question. If you had actually read my post, you would have realized this. Furthermore, neither of the articles you posted has anything to do with the question at hand whatsoever, and you give no support for your "100% sure" claims, which other messages on this thread flatly contradict. Please check yourself before adopting a condescending tone in the future. Zeppelin: The testing you mentioned gives me much more confidence in your answer. Thanks. Could you link me to the thread you mentioned, which discusses the test results, please? I've search and searched but can't find it. (I'm sure you know the search feature on this site leaves much to be desired.)

May 26, 2005, 02:07 AM // 02:07	#25
jinx42 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	Ok, more corroboration, which is good informationally, but also disappointing because, as others have stated, this is an incredibly lame system. Lasty: Does the same apply to situational damage reduction from shields? Has anyone tested this out? Should I not bother with this any longer? (except with my mo/wa of course)